Foydalanuvchi:LunaticLone/qumloq

Possible split of two sections about language variants into new article

Seeing that a lot of the QWERTY article has to do with the keyboard's variants, and the fact that there are many layouts of the standard, some of which not even included in the article, I thought that it might be good to branch two sections about the lingual varieties of the QWERTY keyboard into its article. I am thinking of a target title such as List of QWERTY keyboard language variants. Before I make the bold move, I need to first generate discussion on how to write about these variants. FreeMediaKid$ 01:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

No objection to the principle because the article is well beyond the tldr stage. The exact placement of which letter goes on which key is more language dependent and could usefully be separated out (provided that the variants of English are treated the same way). But it is important that the US keyboard is not declared to be the canonical one: most keyboards in use around the world have an AltGr key but the US version does not. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

I boldly proceeded to split the article. There may or may not be a better title for the newly created article, but since I felt that this one was a bit too lengthy to edit comfortably, all I was concerned about was putting the pieces in the right places to make the two topics more focused and organized. I made sure to tag the two talk pages with attribution, though. FreeMediaKid$ 04:06, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

You have left a lot of loose ends. For example, there are many links to QWERTY#US International which no longer exists. I will revert until you have fully investigated all the implications. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:06, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

You would need to go through all the 'what links here' and in each linking article, change the target to your new list article. And get it done within 24 hours or you end up chasing your tail. Maybe there is a bot that might help? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

• As the new page has been created by a split I have removed the split proposal and added a couple of tags including the one about needing tidying up as a split has occurred. Gusfriend (talk) 03:45, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2022

Andoza:Edit semi-protected The change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1069965632 is a blatant self-promotion. Nobody uses this new keyboard layout in the real world. The user has also rolled back the change rolling back their change as nonsubstantial. Acro~plwiki (talk) 20:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Bajarildi ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 04:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2022

Andoza:Edit semi-protected French (Canada) "It is popular mainly because of its close similarity to the basic US keyboard commonly used by English-speaking Canadians and Americans, historical use of US-made typewriters by French-Canadians, and is the standard for keyboards in Quebec. "

This section is false ! The source [27] refer to the CSA keyboard, not the french-canadian one. So, first, the official keyboard of Canada (and Quebec) is the CSA keyboard. The french canadian layout is NOT standardized. Second, a survey was made in the early 90s an 71% of the french speakers in Quebec and in Canada prefer the CSA Keyboard. If this layout is the more common it's because manufacturer are conservative and kept the old french-canadian layout. Apple use only the CSA layout called " French Canadian - CSA " since decades.

" Les études de M. LaBonté avaient non seulement démontré que l'on ne se privait d'aucune ressource du clavier en évitant le recours à une touche morte pour l'accent grave et la cédille, mais que si l'on demandait à des personnes qui se servent régulièrement de claviers si elles préféraient son clavier à un clavier comportant plus de touches mortes, 71 % préféraient le clavier LaBonté, quelle que soit leur expérience. Étonnamment, on a obtenu exactement le même pourcentage lors de tests faits de manière indépendante dans d'autres provinces canadiennes, chez des personnes qui écrivent en français à l'aide d'un clavier. "

https://www.tresor.gouv.qc.ca/en/information-resources/architecture-dentreprise-gouvernementale/standards-et-normes/standard-sur-le-clavier-quebecois-sgqri-001/standard-sur-le-clavier-quebecois-sgqri-001-foire-aux-questions/

Change asked :

Remove

1) " and is the standard for keyboards in Quebec "

(which is false)

2) " A fully standard keyboard has significantly more symbols.[27] "

(this comment go must go to the CSA section).

- Bouviera87 — Preceding undated comment added 19:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Andoza:Partly done I've removed 1, I'm not sure what you mean with the second part of your request, since the image doesn't correspond to any CSA keyboard image I can find? If you want to implement this change still, you can reply here and change the answered=yes tag in the edit request template to answered=no ★Ama ^{TALK CONTRIBS} 17:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2022

Andoza:Edit semi-protected + EstherLoer (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)